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Monday, March 27, 2006

Taking the Student out of Student Athlete

I love language. I studied language as an undergrad, and I find it fascinating the way it evolves. It likely stems from growing up with George Carlin on HBO – his rants on air travel and other euphemisms still kill me. My first communications professor I encountered as an undergrad stressed that effective, meaningful communication was concise communication.

And then he elaborated over the next 59 minutes.

Amongst his elaborative diatribes was the notion that extra words that do not further the message, almost always result in confusion, having the direct opposite impact the message was intended to send.

In honor of this professor, I’ll cut to the chase. Can we remove "student" from student-athlete? We are dealing with college sports, so they must be students, right?

Adding the word "student" may help some institutions assuage the feelings of guilt they have about passing students through their system who otherwise would not make it if they were not athletes, but at an institution such as the one that signs my check, I am fully confident that most of our athletes are students first. Those who aren’t weed themselves out rather quickly.

Many of them who do perform poorly in the classroom do so because they are student-Greeks, or more often than not, Greek-Students. That they are sometimes also athletes generally reflects more poorly on athletics than it does on the inter-Greek Council.

May my former professor excuse my digression.

Our drama students aren’t student-thespians. Our insect club does not consider its membership student-entomologists.

Putting the word student before the word athlete does little more than draw attention to the fact that at certain places at certain times, athletes were athletes, and not necessarily students. If this is still occurring, placing the word student beforehand is not going to solve the problem. Removing it from the phrase does not remove the kid from class, just as adding the word does not put a butt in a seat.

Other language I could do without:
First-Year Student: Freshmen and women (womyn), get over it. I want to hurl every time I come across a roster on the web with FY.

Not sports related but bugging me this morning nonetheless:
Person of Interest – Our current Administration has done more to harm language…. Sorry, different rant. This phrase was coined for the still unresolved anthrax attacks and its suspect, Steven Hatfill. Now every news channel uses it for the suspect in every case of a person who disappears. Let’s make this easier on everyone, there are suspects, victims, and sometimes witnesses.

In my world, a person of interest is generally a fan, sportswriter, or parent following one of our teams. I usually refer to them as fan, sportswriter, or parent, often substituting the word jerk for the first and third, and on occasion, the second.

There are many more, but putting them all out there would remove your incentive to share your own. What else should we eliminate SIDs? Let’s GIT-R-DUN.

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At 11:11 AM, March 27, 2006, Blogger Andrew said...

For one, we should eliminate the stigma that the Greek system hurts academics universally. For some campuses, I do not doubt that this is true, but on the whole, studies have shown that many campuses have Greeks graduating at a higher rate than Independents as a result of the Greek system. My own alma mater was approximately 70% Greek and had a very solid academic support system within each house. One can likely guess whether I was Greek or not...Many student-athletes that have problems in the Greek system are the ones that overcommit themselves and have not managed or are not able to become effective with time management. This is an entirely different problem that our academic counterparts are struggling against every year.

As per the rest of the post, I agree that the phrase "Student-Athlete" is generally only used when we are trying to tout our latest academic achievement in terms of Academic All-Conference but is often ignored during the regular season. While most of our coaches take a great interest in the academics of our students for eligibility reasons, it's clear that some of them only care because of eligibility. While I enjoy watching our athletes perform, I also enjoy seeing our students graduate and move on to the next phase of their lives. Whether those students are athletes or not, it should always be assumed that our athletes are students if they're playing for a college team.

 
At 12:18 PM, March 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I referred to a "student-athlete." Many times for me it's "player" or "member" of the team, and even more often just their position. This would include for all-academic awards.

The only time I've used the term "student-athlete" is in official speeches and senior honors ceremonies. In other words: In spoken word only.

 
At 9:49 PM, March 27, 2006, Blogger Michael said...

I would ban the use of the graduation year instead of senior, junior, etc. For example, snobby schools usually located in the northeast would refer to Joe Smith (2007) instead of senior Joe Smith. Why?

What if Joe Smith does not graduate in 2007? What if Joe Smith gains an extra year of eligibility? It is dumb.

As to student-athlete, I argue for the term orginating with the NCAA and against its origins from some public relations office.

 
At 11:52 PM, March 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about when a SID uses the term "career-high" for a freshman? Hello, their career is only one year, obviously if it is a season high it is also a career high, so why not just say season high? Also, its not so much language, and most veteran SIDs dont do this, but it drives me nuts to read Team A lost to Team B 54-70 tonight. NO NO NO!

 
At 1:33 AM, March 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My list of expendable words, phrases or other annoyances in the SID profession...I'm just leaving the office right now honey, Student-athlete, First-year, Tickled the twine, Swinging bunt, Slap-hitter, Newcomer of the year, Fifth-year senior, Partial qualifier, Bend but don't break, Crafty, Gut check, Ice water in the veins, Violation of team rules, Indefinitely, Zero block, Shot (not on goal in soccer), Offsides, Offsides trap, Winner by fall (it's a PIN), Greens in regulation, Moral victory, Source close to the situation, Unidentified source, Authorities inside the athletics department, Athletics director, Co-head coach, Two-minute drill, Net yards punting, Team turnover, Over (volleyball), Replay official, Upstairs, Women's/Men's Rifle, Any nickname that starts with Lady or ends in "ettes", Cross country, Phenom, Sudden success (instead of sudden death), Shootouts, International softball tiebreaker, Floor general, An NBA three, Match-up zone, Personal foul, Yellow cards, Punched their ticket, Community service opportunity, Giving back to the community, One game at a time, Walk-on scholarship, Verbal commitment, Post-season guide, Any other sport other than football that decides to play a home game on Homecoming day, Voluntary workouts, Unofficial results, Questionable call, Scrub, Media timeouts, Alphabetical rosters (for teams that have numbers), Aluminum bats, Points in the paint, Holiday tournaments, Precision Timing, Quarterback hurry, Goes without saying, Flex position in softball, Libero, Walk-off, 10-minute cooling off period, Interim head coach, Back iron, Between the circles, Yards after catch, Freethrow percentage defense,

 
At 1:35 AM, March 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My list of expendable words, phrases or other annoyances in the SID profession...I'm just leaving the office right now honey, Student-athlete, First-year, Tickled the twine, Swinging bunt, Slap-hitter, Newcomer of the year, Fifth-year senior, Partial qualifier, Bend but don't break, Crafty, Gut check, Ice water in the veins, Violation of team rules, Indefinitely, Zero block, Shot (not on goal in soccer), Offsides, Offsides trap, Winner by fall (it's a PIN), Greens in regulation, Moral victory, Source close to the situation, Unidentified source, Authorities inside the athletics department, Athletics director, Co-head coach, Two-minute drill, Net yards punting, Team turnover, Over (volleyball), Replay official, Upstairs, Women's/Men's Rifle, Any nickname that starts with Lady or ends in "ettes", Cross country, Phenom, Sudden success (instead of sudden death), Shootouts, International softball tiebreaker, Floor general, An NBA three, Match-up zone, Personal foul, Yellow cards, Punched their ticket, Community service opportunity, Giving back to the community, One game at a time, Walk-on scholarship, Verbal commitment, Post-season guide, Any other sport other than football that decides to play a home game on Homecoming day, Voluntary workouts, Unofficial results, Questionable call, Scrub, Media timeouts, Alphabetical rosters (for teams that have numbers), Aluminum bats, Points in the paint, Holiday tournaments, Precision Timing, Quarterback hurry, Goes without saying, Flex position in softball, Libero, Walk-off, 10-minute cooling off period, Interim head coach, Back iron, Between the circles, Yards after catch, Freethrow percentage defense,

 
At 10:19 AM, March 28, 2006, Blogger SID Vicious said...

Anonymous - my sides hurt - I had to read it twice. Thanks fo the proper start to a Tuesday.

Newbie, I was Greek myself. I was referring specifically to my current employer, proving my profs point about excess verbiage. I guess he won't excuse that digression now.

 
At 4:24 PM, March 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Joe Smith set a NEW SCHOOL RECORD . . . . well, if he set it today, new is redundant

 
At 9:42 PM, March 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we are on positions, anything in basketball besides F, C or G is simply unacceptable. What is this crap of listing someone as a Post or a Wing? Just call them a center or a guard.

 
At 8:17 AM, March 29, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's OK to call a basketball player a post or a swingman in a pewview etc., I am just saying on the actual roster. The only positions listed should be G,F,C. Thats it. Even a G/F is OK, just not a P or a W.

 
At 2:57 PM, March 29, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, maybe the ALL CAPS for the last name is a little dumb, but there is value in the lastname, first name. If your school does either live stats on the internet or has stat monitors, it helps if the names are last name first. I know this doesnt apply to a lot of DIII's, but there is a value in it.

 
At 10:51 PM, March 29, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about we eliminate ending posts with quotes from cheesy comics! Git-r-done my ass!
(Sorry, Dude. Had to check it out after our conversation tonight.)

 
At 12:48 AM, March 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SID Who,

It is done last name first because when you are inputting the game, you only see part of the name. It is much more valuable to see last names for the inputter, to make sure you're putting in information correctly. If you miss something and rely on the PA announcer who says "Basket by Jones" you actually SEE "JONES, Jo" instead of "John Jo" and enter it for the right person.

As for LAST, First it just looks better on the box score (when the last name is first) in my opinion.

 
At 12:39 PM, March 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really, some of you guys should check out Lake Superior State's list of banned words. Some humorous stuff.

On the CAPS NAMES: I can understand the desire to call out names, especially when you're blasting your release out to hometown papers, so the editors can quickly scan and find the name of their hometown kid and start making the "should I run this" decision. I've gotten in the habit of bolding those names and their respective hometowns and making sure I send the e-mail in both plain text and HTML.

 
At 8:33 PM, March 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAPS make the names stand out in the baseball play by play.

 
At 9:14 PM, March 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Try scanning the play by play of any sport that has lengthy pbp and without ALL CAPS, it's a bit tedious on the eyes.

 
At 12:38 AM, April 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't give a rip about the flow. I care about finding names as I try to write the story after the game.

Just my take.

 
At 9:10 PM, April 04, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a student worker for baseball, and I generally do the computer. Our SID HATES the LAST, First. For every game we host , we manually change each teams roster to First Last because he thinks it looks better on live stats and stat monitors. Is that really worth it to anyone? Sometimes, visiting SIDs are then required to go back and change the names so it matches up wiht the stat files. Seems like a lot of work to avoid LAST, first.

 
At 10:49 AM, April 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real issue with the rosters is that we continue to deal with an antiquated product in statcrew.

There's no reason that we should not be able to set import options into statcrew as to how we want those rosters displayed instead of retyping them.

Maybe if it were based in something other than DOS that could be accomplished.

 
At 3:09 PM, April 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The odd thing is that some of the Stat Crew programs (Football in particular I know) have the capability in their roster utilities to set the rosters however you want (Last, First; F. Last; LAST, First; etc.) without having to retype.

It surprises me that they don't standardize a lot of those things across the brand.

 
At 11:35 AM, April 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you emailed or called Monica Pellman at Statcrew about these issues? Over the years, they've been pretty receptive to my ideas. One request I made was to have ranking indicators included for the career function (i.e. if you want to list the Top 10 men's basketball scorers, ranking indicators will rank each player 1, 2, 3, etc.)...

I've also asked for there to be a prompt in basketball to ask for who drew a charge on an offensive foul...sort of like it prompts you for an assist after a field goal...you can hit the enter key and nothing will be input, or you can type the name of the defensive player who drew the charge...since this is something I think is important that does not appear in stats currently.

 
At 12:21 PM, April 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indeed! I e-mailed them a while back regarding the hockey program (there is no game control or input to handle timeouts in hockey, you have to sneak them in the game notes on the box score), and while they were a bit ambiguous on whether they would do anything about it, at least they heard my grievence.

They understand that if they don't make the program the way we'd like it, that there is a good chance we start migrating to a new stats system.

Maybe we should just all move to DakStats along with the NAIA so that there is true consistancy! :D

 
At 12:22 PM, April 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ira is correct...the Stat Crew folks are very receptive to ideas from SID's. In many cases, those ideas are often implemented into the next version of the software. The golf version of the software, I am aware, was developed with a lot of consulting with SIDs (John Arenberg in particular).

locustgrovesid does have a point, I believe. It would be nice if Stat Crew would make their products more uniform so that one worked more like the other. It would make it easier for us to teach the use of the program to our stat crews, work study students, etc.

Now if Stat Crew would come up with some wrestling software so I wouldn't have to compile stats by hand! (If anyone has some ideas of good wrestling stats software, I am all ears.)

 
At 7:45 PM, April 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Blake, locustgrovesid, and others have said about the uniformity of the programs, I concur wholeheartedly...

I usually have student-assistant turnover every two years...While training the kids on the programs is usually not a major issue, there are always things about the fundamental aspects of the different sports software packages in the Statcrew family that confuses the kids when they're trying to adapt from season-to-season.

Perhaps what we need is a CoSIDA committee on Statistical software?

I think it would make sense since without our industry, that industry would cease to exist.

This committee would survey the membership at least annually about what they would like to see in Statcrew (or other software), what features should be added, omitted, adjusted, etc, and what new products would be worth pursuing...This is something I would certainly be interested in being involved with.

I've had nothing but a positive relationship with Alex Grim and Monica Pellman, and they've been very receptive to many ideas from many people in our business...

I know they're considering adding a women's bowling statcrew program...Not that this affects most Division III SIDs, because my school is like one of five with the sport...But if you all could only see these "interesting" MS Excel databases I've had to put together for the sport...They can make your head spin :)

 
At 11:39 AM, April 07, 2006, Blogger SID Vicious said...

"Now if Stat Crew would come up with some wrestling software so I wouldn't have to compile stats by hand! (If anyone has some ideas of good wrestling stats software, I am all ears.)"

Amen. I have been through two different stat programs for wrestling. I wouldn't wish either of them on my least favorite SID. Actually, my least favorite SID can have it, but my second least favorite SID (don't really have one), no way. I wouldn't wish that upon him or her when he or she emerges as my second least favorite sid.

 
At 9:56 PM, April 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Locustgrove,

Sailing is probably one of a few lightly offered sports that could probably benefit...Others, off the top of my head, I would think could benefit include water polo, fencing, gymnastics, rifle, skiing, and crew...

I would assume we probably all do similar things for track and field...list the top performances of the season in each event and top times by each athlete. Same thing for cross-country. Not sure if there is a program that exists which would make this record keeping any easier.

 
At 2:40 PM, April 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sid who,
Our conference (Northwest Conference) has adopted Hy-Tek for use on all track and field and swimming meets. It has worked real well for us.

The only problem has been with coaches changing team names and spelling athletes names (sometime from their own team) wrong. We do have to enter results from meets outside the conference, but usually the work for that is pretty minimal.

Our conference was able to pay for the software using a NCAA tehcnology grant...made it real easty to implement it conference-wide.

 
At 10:01 PM, April 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gruntledness is rising around here again...everyone is satisfied with the spring? I find that hard to believe...

 
At 1:45 AM, April 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The satisfying thing about the spring is that the next season is Summer and we have 0 sports during the Summer season...Unless the NCAA begins offering Beach Volleyball, Barbeque Crouquet, and everyone's favorite sport...Lawnmowing.

 
At 2:17 PM, April 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good news from Statcrew...I got this message from Monica Pellman today:

Ira,

Upper, mixed, first/last and last/first functions have been added to roster maintenance for BS, BB, VB, SO, LC and HK. (it is already included in football) We will be testing these and then plan to release these changes with the versions X.8 in June.

Thank you again for the suggestion on this issue. Let me know if other questions.

Monica

 
At 2:19 PM, April 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I'm at it, here is another suggestion I made to the folks at Statcrew:

In all sports, when we generate an individual's career stats using the "Individual Summary" tab, can it be set up to also generate where they rank all-time and in single-season history in each category?

Below is an example...


Individual Career History (Apr 18, 2006)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rob Sumner



Year Avg GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB-ATT

2005.... .367 31-31 120 46 44 2 2 2 30 21 18 14-16

2006.... .413 32-32 121 40 50 10 6 2 20 22 13 32-36

TOTAL... .390 63-63 241 86 94 12 8 4 50 43 31 46-52





ALL-TIME RANKING



Average: 9th of 1050

Games Played: 117 of 1050

Games Started 100 of 1050

Etc, etc., etc.



SINGLE-SEASON RANKING

Runs: 1st (2005), 2nd (2006)

Steals: 1st (2006), 15th (2005)

Etc, etc, etc.

 
At 3:03 PM, May 01, 2006, Blogger SID Vicious said...

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At 3:06 PM, May 01, 2006, Blogger SID Vicious said...

Ira - if you give them too many ideas, we might all be out of work:)

Now all we need is a microphone input that lets us spot for the computer eliminating the keyboard person, as well as an auto-press release write command.

 
At 4:10 PM, May 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A pet peeve of mine is the phrase "First Annual." As was pointed out to me many, many moons ago, nothing can be an annual event until it has been staged once. If it returns for a second year, then "annual" can be attached to the name of the event. Perhaps "Inaugural" would be more appropriate and more to the point.

 
At 12:23 AM, May 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sid vicious...

That auto-press release write command is brilliant...If you can come up with that, you'll make millions, and all of us will be playing a lot more golf...

 
At 9:54 AM, May 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crez looks like a good system, but the last thing I need is a new stats software to use. Being at a NAIA school, we're required to report our stats to the national office via DakStats software - which is piece of junk and Daktronics needs to just stick to doing scoreboards. Fortunately, StatCrew files can be imported into DakStats, otherwise I'd go insane.

Used to use DakStats in-game software, but gave it up after the football software crashed on me. It only crashed during the second half - usually the third quarter - in EVERY GAME I EVER USED THE SOFTWARE.

 
At 8:42 AM, May 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like StatCrew too ... it's easy, simple to use and compiles an unreal amount of stats. I really like it for baseball. Plus, it's easier to send and transfer files as well as creating HTML pages.

In the NAIA, we are TOTALLY frustrated with DakStats. Be glad you're 'stuck' with StatCrew in the NCAA.

 
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